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Joyce and Wes Kiel's avatar

My current husband of 4 years, I worked for 25 years ago when he was a pastor. He taught classes on the art of listening and including what is not being said—as well as silence. He is now in Hospice and I am so thankful to have learned what I now can give back to him. He also introduced me to Wendell Berry so it’s come full circle. Thank you.

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Wendell Berry for Pastors's avatar

Oh Joyce. It says something about how much I struggle with the things I wrote about here that my immediate thought was "what can I say?". I did pray for Wes, and for you. I am sorry.

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Joyce and Wes Kiel's avatar

He also shared this quote by Collin Murray: Grief is the price we pay for love, do not pity those who pay the price but those who choose not to.

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Will Norrid's avatar

Thank you for this. The ministry of presence (and active listening) is hard to quantify and therefore often neglected.

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Wendell Berry for Pastors's avatar

Well put, Will. Thank you. We have a difficult relationship with how we view being a pastor as a job. It's easy for me to quantify sermon preparation, counseling sessions, meetings, etc. But how do we quantify sitting with someone? And yet this is so crucial. One of the reasons our sermons fall on deaf ears is because we remain strangers to our people. And much that is at the heart of what it means to be a pastor (perhaps the phrase "ministry of the word and prayer" is helpful here) is simply not that important in terms of our job responsibilities.

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Brian J. Mann's avatar

Good word. Thank you for sharing it.

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Mama Says's avatar

I call this comfort ‘bearing witness’, it is an honor to offer this to a suffering soul. 💫

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Dale Olsen's avatar

We are not all that comfortable with silence. When we feel too uncomfortable we throw out words hoping to quell our anxiety.

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Holy Poetry's avatar

“What’s Your Part In It?”

“Let me explain”, his opening gambit

about my life and how to fix it.

He and I were having a chat

I said I felt sad because of all that I lost

I was adrift in my life, bereft

the beauty in my life and respect

were taken and all that I had left,

past the shame, was to start from scratch.

To start to fix me he asked

what part of it was my fault,

“what’s your part in it?”

Between the empath and the expert

it’s easy for me to pick

unsolicited advice is an insult

the listener as mirror is a gift.

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Nancy Greene's avatar

It seems that our instinct is to try to come up with some words that may comfort those we love. My friend was diagnosed a month ago with breast cancer, and each ensuing scan seems to build on the bad news. Right now she is overflowing with fear, grief, fury, and hopelessness. It’s helpful to think that instead of trying to come up with meaningful words (not platitudes), I can perhaps give support by just being present and staying quiet.

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